From unknown Tue Mar 19 08:47:23 2024 Received: (at submit) by bugs.devuan.org; 7 Nov 2017 16:00:03 +0000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: devuanbugs@dyne.org Received: from mail.dyne.org [178.62.188.7] by fulcanelli with IMAP (fetchmail-6.3.26) for (single-drop); Tue, 07 Nov 2017 17:00:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from tschil.ethgen.ch (tschil.ethgen.ch [5.9.7.51]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by vm6.ganeti.dyne.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7CD8BB810BB for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2017 16:57:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.17.4] (helo=ikki.ket) by tschil.ethgen.ch with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1eC6Ez-0006Uh-Lo for submit@bugs.devuan.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2017 16:56:41 +0100 Received: from klaus by ikki.ket with local (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1eC6Ez-0005dg-EW for submit@bugs.devuan.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2017 16:56:41 +0100 Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2017 16:56:41 +0100 From: Klaus Ethgen To: submit@bugs.devuan.org Subject: System does not boot due to dependency to /usr Message-ID: <20171107155639.g4or4bb3igid6yat@ikki.ethgen.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; x-action=pgp-signed OpenPGP: id=79D0B06F4E20AF1C; url=http://www.ethgen.ch/~klaus/79D0B06F4E20AF1C.txt; preference=signencrypt User-Agent: NeoMutt/20170609 (1.8.3) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on tupac3.dyne.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Package: lvm2 Version: 2.02.175-1 Severity: critical Debian-Bug: #881057 - -- Klaus Ethgen http://www.ethgen.ch/ pub 4096R/4E20AF1C 2011-05-16 Klaus Ethgen Fingerprint: 85D4 CA42 952C 949B 1753 62B3 79D0 B06F 4E20 AF1C -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: Charset: ISO-8859-1 iQGzBAEBCgAdFiEEMWF28vh4/UMJJLQEpnwKsYAZ9qwFAloB17cACgkQpnwKsYAZ 9qxZzAwAlFcMHa0sFqAbZ9jpltQv/jGqfqEaVJBJVRg1330QdDslv/AUg1hmU18A razNeKeUKjE7q4chuFT1B9YzRbDOGUKxUpL2jSD2K67TK1NgwPEK2XHZZw/NXv5X azO12eHHtkc4tQ4RVMJN0zQM9fr0fu5VjyfxoEtJHUcLJShqhFqPWebzJj26+eYB a5ruZ0cR2PDtfH6GD2l5Iq1aXaA6hYWbB+2e5j/g4aMkvglyCBnZ8hB7nTd2yxeY kRJSFFLfGz8GzE3gvaPQi61O/9YmNbgDtVzjltjpKx3Gvb88guMwoQQZL3QF7P+I 1uL2F874CUPajIQ2OOxtvrzYdjj6JU3P6lZI/piqG573+xwtG4HOf5LGi3pscs4M H+/O0uZw1/iM/Y27Kbj6YZuSbuJkEBQ44uFj2h4qF9AzG0E23HqWp3rEE/8gQLQM vV/pfKyPUMUOfJD0gkvEBftgl3sJ2KXEetGFvWKj9LoDErQ0xf7A9XmgMOZ7IOX/ H86dcVHX =d2Sf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From unknown Tue Mar 19 08:47:23 2024 Received: (at 157) by bugs.devuan.org; 7 Dec 2017 18:40:06 +0000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: devuanbugs@dyne.org Received: from tupac3.dyne.org [195.169.149.119] by fulcanelli with IMAP (fetchmail-6.3.26) for (single-drop); Thu, 07 Dec 2017 19:40:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (Authenticated sender: katolaz@freaknet.org) with ESMTPSA id D008AF6047D Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2017 18:34:53 +0000 From: KatolaZ To: 157@bugs.devuan.org Subject: more details? 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Message-ID: <20200114125059.GA4045@hindley.org.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Debbugs-No-Ack: No Thanks User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=FAKE_REPLY_C,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on tupac3.dyne.org Control: tag -1 moreinfo From unknown Tue Mar 19 08:47:23 2024 Received: (at 157) by bugs.devuan.org; 5 Feb 2023 10:21:22 +0000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: bugs@devuan.org Received: from email.devuan.org [2001:41d0:2:d06e::5c4:2612] by doc.devuan.org with IMAP (fetchmail-6.4.16) for (single-drop); Sun, 05 Feb 2023 10:21:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from email.devuan.org by email.devuan.org with LMTP id zAFhCCCD32NDDAAAmSBk0A (envelope-from ) for ; Sun, 05 Feb 2023 10:21:20 +0000 Received: by email.devuan.org (Postfix, from userid 109) id 120B7AFF; Sun, 5 Feb 2023 10:21:20 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on email.devuan.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.4 required=5.0 tests=RDNS_DYNAMIC,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 Received-SPF: Pass (mailfrom) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=193.36.131.86; helo=mx.hindley.org.uk; envelope-from=mark@hindley.org.uk; receiver= Received: from mx.hindley.org.uk (193-36-131-86.cfwn.uk [193.36.131.86]) by email.devuan.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C2F0F2A8 for <157@bugs.devuan.org>; Sun, 5 Feb 2023 10:21:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from apollo.hindleynet ([192.168.1.3] helo=hindley.org.uk) by mx.hindley.org.uk with smtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pOc98-00020B-IX; Sun, 05 Feb 2023 10:21:18 +0000 Received: (nullmailer pid 25871 invoked by uid 1000); Sun, 05 Feb 2023 10:21:18 -0000 Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2023 10:21:18 +0000 From: Mark Hindley To: Klaus Ethgen Cc: 157@bugs.devuan.org Subject: Re: bug#157: System does not boot due to dependency to /usr Message-ID: References: <20171107155639.g4or4bb3igid6yat@ikki.ethgen.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20171107155639.g4or4bb3igid6yat@ikki.ethgen.ch> Control: severity -1 wishlist Control: tags -1 - moreinfo Klaus, Now I know more about how your system is setup (from other bug reports you have submitted), I am going to change the severity of this report to wishlist. That doesn't mean I don't understand your concerns, or think that they are not important. However, booting Debian without initramfs to mount /usr has not been officially supported for a number of releases (Jessie or even Wheezy, I think). I regret this and wish it still was a possibility. But that decision has been made and I see no realistic or practical way of Devuan going against it. I know that will be disappointing to you. If you have practical ways you think we can achieve it, by all means say. With thanks and best wishes Mark From unknown Tue Mar 19 08:47:23 2024 Received: (at 157) by bugs.devuan.org; 5 Feb 2023 10:49:54 +0000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: bugs@devuan.org Received: from email.devuan.org [2001:41d0:2:d06e::5c4:2612] by doc.devuan.org with IMAP (fetchmail-6.4.16) for (single-drop); Sun, 05 Feb 2023 10:49:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from email.devuan.org by email.devuan.org with LMTP id GaoYBpyJ32NODQAAmSBk0A (envelope-from ) for ; Sun, 05 Feb 2023 10:49:00 +0000 Received: by email.devuan.org (Postfix, from userid 109) id 0A09BAFF; Sun, 5 Feb 2023 10:49:00 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on email.devuan.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 Received-SPF: Pass (mailfrom) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=5.9.7.51; helo=tschil.ethgen.ch; envelope-from=klaus@ethgen.de; receiver= Received: from tschil.ethgen.ch (tschil.ethgen.ch [5.9.7.51]) by email.devuan.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 74F1D2A8 for <157@bugs.devuan.org>; Sun, 5 Feb 2023 10:48:55 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ethgen.de; s=mail; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID: Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=aLoX+sD6g8F7hp3hnsl2GTpGncGxSY2YqFmNc+biNU8=; b=vnew1XJcshxPHlj1dGsHdjq9x/ l3tx/bAvm49KYh6LDkwcEH7LLRih3m6gdfiX8ct9G6kLZmRNVlUdspSdJKH4k81TZ8OWYFfarPhR/ It5gjiUjW12y5TNnPpFzrcYB2XUohdw8ZWVl9fntr4r6VuRDpSTR/i7XsVvqvRXAwdkyl7NkS0d6m dcEKPT4VHubd80Rh2qHsNfqdcJLMZM4gk3zPanyB3Qz3uvLntrEZoFsFORHNBI8Ox6tnRSPDtzYx6 cSRRBPRhHsvFOO1tZTcldsL8js4CX1dmqxNVqR6eooN9GvLfEgzAufCTKR+Q5bJWMduVoc2f388dg 2kcBX9E8QmmjBPszVu2y+x78WuRBAy2SnaMaN9/dkjlHtA8D5DHQM2KSvtSdqBo7tVV2jmmehpa2u +5nRggFbjFzLTvn1esv7pgvHH7MShKphBmQbn4xfhcl72LfxjQmUtGs4zpLTuCXv0on6MPYtVwyqV aRkXQNyPb6RA91kQeD6qs2zXNELa2AHhX7q8siBwGNCedHNpsFJVueSv6jfy6yJdp1bdH03SfPPb+ VMdn4OWC6zRc+jKH3pYVAwEQO/FBsnLU9oTxAymyDaOzOCbxWZW5Jt12NPAGNh44VpL17crFcRrEQ GxRxMQCkDSsTfSh7uJn7rVGbbL2w8B3rx7sphlPXU=; Received: from [192.168.17.4] (helo=ikki.ket) by tschil.ethgen.ch with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pOcZj-0005mq-KH; Sun, 05 Feb 2023 10:48:49 +0000 Received: from klaus by ikki.ket with local (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1pOcZj-0002F1-18; Sun, 05 Feb 2023 11:48:47 +0100 Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2023 11:48:47 +0100 From: Klaus Ethgen To: Mark Hindley Cc: 157@bugs.devuan.org Subject: Re: bug#157: System does not boot due to dependency to /usr Message-ID: References: <20171107155639.g4or4bb3igid6yat@ikki.ethgen.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="HVB+TuZWEwXScRX8" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: OpenPGP: id=79D0B06F4E20AF1C; url=http://www.ethgen.ch/~klaus/79D0B06F4E20AF1C.txt; preference=signencrypt --HVB+TuZWEwXScRX8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Mark, Am So den 5. Feb 2023 um 11:21 schrieb Mark Hindley: > Now I know more about how your system is setup (from other bug reports yo= u have > submitted), I am going to change the severity of this report to wishlist. >=20 > That doesn't mean I don't understand your concerns, or think that they ar= e not > important. However, booting Debian without initramfs to mount /usr has no= t been > officially supported for a number of releases (Jessie or even Wheezy, I > think). I regret this and wish it still was a possibility. But that decis= ion has > been made and I see no realistic or practical way of Devuan going against= it. Yea, the decision was made for no needs just as P=F6ttering does not understand what it is for. They dropped all old systems like mine out of support. But Linux is not that short living than windows. This makes it absolutely unbelievable. Moreover, they put some extra effort into explicitly breaking former working packages. > I know that will be disappointing to you. If you have practical ways you = think > we can achieve it, by all means say. As I have many experiences now, I can think of a way to do that. It would mean to build a devuan fork of pcre2 source package with minimal changes (as I did in ftp://ftp.ethgen.ch/pub/debian/pool/unofficial/p/pcre2). All other packages listed below could be made with a empty package only holding diverts of the libraries. The reason for the different handling is that if you divert pcre2 in between, it would break dpkg itself. So that is a manual step or (as I did) with a patched package. Here are the packages I identified, that are needed to be in /: - libargon2-1 - libpopt0 - libkmod2 - liblz4-1 - libzstd1 - libjson-c3 - libjson-c4 - libjson-c5 - libssl1.1 - libssl-dev - libssl3 - libaio1 - libacl1 - libattr1 - libuuid1 - libblkid1 - libelogind0 - libmount1 - libedit2 - libedit-dev - libbsd0 - libmd0 But as I said, non of them needs to be changed if you do the diverting one. The dev packages are due they hold the unversioned .so symlink. And that is needed in some rare situations. Regards Klaus --=20 Klaus Ethgen http://www.ethgen.ch/ pub 4096R/4E20AF1C 2011-05-16 Klaus Ethgen Fingerprint: 85D4 CA42 952C 949B 1753 62B3 79D0 B06F 4E20 AF1C --HVB+TuZWEwXScRX8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: Charset: ISO-8859-1 iQGzBAABCgAdFiEEMWF28vh4/UMJJLQEpnwKsYAZ9qwFAmPfiYoACgkQpnwKsYAZ 9qw3sQv/XIzBb06v97s1C023DKXZ6w2koDHijdupFyWEQOj0tGi933jKFea5l9PI lMbVUfoKeqzw/ooJEy/aRLtExXP3u8OgpRT5HkQOciy2y7fnrVddj5GVFYHhsLHb 8g6Dcha4YHioSEDxxTzh52dslBu0IetDqCHswHotK+kmUr50YBX4ke+tpmeXZh+a UjVpMoTW/774nHwaT/d7dlvJ64RD4kw6TOXMcs01be7k2hPsfXNHoJJE5tcnlcDf vG8A5I+H0toV3MwzpwEMAuaqPVYmbUVWFjxl0bGDtTll4tcWw1HXfrALwHjIEb3h 8dONryFCzdRBqXz4O8IDgYI0yhUnyeB+N5MjgEjHaXe+I6YABRavHpkRGpxeV9GI nkqDBnVtAelrD1jvqwG+4rWqQ4AqMV3yJrhG2JXhetI36ZFX8BDSPihUiCw/1a22 OqTSrx5hVKvXbPwc5/g+7WI1yMfOdaSllTlsA8E4VlCPpIf+0s5IopP1UqbIyjMJ N7RxIiW9 =SbES -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --HVB+TuZWEwXScRX8--