I confirmed, its a problem in display managers .. all the debian (and obviously in consecuence now devuan) display managers are broken..

the lxdm patch  debian/patches/22_ubuntu-i18n_oneiric.patch uses the profile file to internally set and copy the LC_xxxx environment variables and property set languaje to desktop user

i backported the LXDM pacakge to Devuan from debian experimental, removed systemd and use as default display manager,

can now login and set file names correctly and use better the unstranslated entries in xfce4 menues..  sorry about xfce4 but not set property the languaje environment if are mixed

the problem was also inherit from debian due Devuan its just a copy without systemd.. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=871401


The post in dev2galaxy forum when a administrator reconized the problem for years in refracta;


1) TAKING IN CONSIDERATIONS THE DISPLAY MANAGERS:

gdm does not exits anymore -> gdm3 and its broken for mixed/multilingual
kdm does not exist anymore -> was superset by lightdm+kde theme
lightdm shows the alternates languajes but does not saved and does not set property all the settings
lxdm are not in repositories, and only are in experimental/sid
sddm are only in winbuntu and not in debian , so then not in devuan
slim, does not have languaje selector, so unusefull
wdm ??? please!
xdm !!!! please are complety broken does nto set property the langs
nodm does not set languaje, user wants to change (many users use a same session as invited users)

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#19 Today 19:01:00

fsmithred
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mckaygerhard wrote:

i dont understand why devuan, err i mean DEBIAN only offers 4 display managers and only two of them are complex with all features (GDM3 and lightdm)

Maybe nobody is interested enough to do the work on those other display managers. Or maybe there are enough devs who think you should be using gdm3 with gnome3 and liking it the way they serve it to you.

so then its a fact that devuan its just a debian copy without systemd, the same problem are in debian..

Yeah, some of the same. And a good portion of the few devuan devs who exist would be happy to not have to worry about creating a desktop distribution and let people do that downstream.

i propose that Devuan has packages of LXDM (years in unstable in Debian) and others like sddm or property package others, winbuntu offers more choices: https://packages.ubuntu.com/artful/x-display-manager

Please tell me more about the lxdm you're using. Where did you get it, and did you have to apply the patch yourself? I use lightdm in my Refracta isos, and the language selector has caused difficulties for years. We have a custom live-config script to get around the problems, but that only works in a live session.

#20 Today 19:18:02

Re: Utf8 problems in X vs console for file names and others
fsmithred wrote:

Or maybe there are enough devs who think you should be using gdm3 with gnome3 and liking it the way they serve it to you.

WTF!!! i must use gnome-puach due those guys have delirium of power! i dont think the freedom are in this way!

so then its a fact that devuan its just a debian copy without systemd, the same problem are in debian..

Yeah, some of the same. And a good portion of the few devuan devs who exist would be happy to not have to worry about creating a desktop distribution and let people do that downstream.

i ts the firs time that a devuan forum administrator acepts the facts!

Please tell me more about the lxdm you're using. Where did you get it, and did you have to apply the patch yourself? I use lightdm in my Refracta isos, and the language selector has caused difficulties for years. We have a custom live-config script to get around the problems, but that only works in a live session.

1) you using the wrong display manager, the guys that make lightdm assumed only one languaje per system.. also lightdm try to be simple and light but nevermind! its now complicated and requite lot of depends
2) lxdm! please, the name itselft said! LXDE Display Management, low depends, too low (compiles into gtk 2.20 and libc6 2.3.6) and i send many patches to upstream and to debian to solve many bugs..
3) custom scripts must be in postsession in display managers seems you are manage the problem in worng way.. or well, lxdm provides like ifconig script post and pre login steps to inserts scripts

i packaged to venenux here: http://intranet1.net.ve/venenux/mskcommon/desktop/lxdm/
debian has lasted with my patches/bugsreports included: https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=lxdm

so means ASCII in Devuan now will have lxdm available.. devuan must backport the lxdm to jessie to solve the broken and stupid slim/lightdm limitations and errors

well devuan must change the slimm to lxdm if want to avoid languaje problems, the only problem i found in lxdm are screens sizes in dell T110 special servers and Asus Eeepc 2G/4G 7XX models as i documented in the friendsofdevuan wiki site!

i have repackaged and adapted yet to non-systemd in the venenux repo cited previously so its not dificult! pleaase, counting that lxdm solved many things..  make sense must be adopted by the devuan manpowers



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