Devuan bug report logs - #224
[Procps package] ["free" command] "Old" output is now the only one without notice

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Package: procps; Maintainer for procps is Devuan Dev <devuan-dev@lists.dyne.org>;

Reported by: Stephane Ascoet <stephaneascoet@users.sourceforge.net>

Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2018 14:03:01 UTC

Severity: normal

Fixed in version procps/2:3.3.15-2+devuan1

Done: Arne Wichmann <aw@old-forest.org>

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Report forwarded to devuan-bugs@lists.dyne.org, owner@bugs.devuan.org:
bug#224; Package procps. (full text, mbox, link).


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From: Stephane Ascoet <stephaneascoet@users.sourceforge.net>
To: submit@bugs.devuan.org
Subject: [Procps package] ["free" command] "Old" output is now the only one without notice
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2018 15:51:24 +0200
Package: Procps
Version: 2:3.3.12-3+devuan2.1

I've got a script using the line "buffers/cache" that free used to 
output, in Devuan Jessie for example. In the manual page, a "-o"/"--old" 
option is said to delete this line.

And after upgrading to Devuan Ascii, the script doesn't work anymore: I 
then found that now free behave like if "-o" was always enabled. What's 
that??? If it's an old output, why should it be default now? And what 
about all scripts broke by that change that isn't notified in the 
release notes??? Moreover, the man page isn't up to date, still talking 
about the old behavior.


Reply sent to Arne Wichmann <aw@old-forest.org>:
You have taken responsibility. (Thu, 22 Oct 2020 15:18:05 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


Notification sent to Stephane Ascoet <stephaneascoet@users.sourceforge.net>:
bug acknowledged by developer. (Thu, 22 Oct 2020 15:18:07 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


Message #10 received at 224-done@bugs.devuan.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Arne Wichmann <aw@old-forest.org>
To: 224-done@bugs.devuan.org
Subject: Re: [Procps package] ["free" command] "Old" output is now the only one without notice
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2020 17:06:39 +0200
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Version: 2:3.3.15-2+devuan1
Package: Procps

As far as I can see, the documentation of free does not talk about -o or
--old anymore. If I am blind, please reopen. ;)

cu

AW
-- 
[...] If you don't want to be restricted, don't agree to it. If you are
coerced, comply as much as you must to protect yourself, just don't support
it. Noone can free you but yourself. (crag, on Debian Planet)
Arne Wichmann (aw@saar.de)
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Information forwarded to devuan-bugs@lists.dyne.org, Devuan Dev <devuan-dev@lists.dyne.org>:
bug#224; Package procps. (Mon, 02 Nov 2020 10:33:01 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


Acknowledgement sent to Stephane Ascoet <stephane.ascoet@univ-paris1.fr>:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to Devuan Dev <devuan-dev@lists.dyne.org>. (Mon, 02 Nov 2020 10:33:04 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


Message #15 received at 224@bugs.devuan.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Stephane Ascoet <stephane.ascoet@univ-paris1.fr>
To: 224@bugs.devuan.org
Subject: This isn't an answer
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2020 10:54:13 +0100
Hi, If I'm not wrong, updating only the documentation doesn't solve the 
main concern of this bug witch is a brokening-scripts-change in "free" 
output
-- 
Sincerely, Stephane Ascoet


Information forwarded to devuan-bugs@lists.dyne.org, Devuan Dev <devuan-dev@lists.dyne.org>:
bug#224; Package procps. (Tue, 03 Nov 2020 09:48:01 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


Acknowledgement sent to Trek <trek00@inbox.ru>:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to Devuan Dev <devuan-dev@lists.dyne.org>. (Tue, 03 Nov 2020 09:48:04 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


Message #20 received at 224@bugs.devuan.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Trek <trek00@inbox.ru>
To: 224@bugs.devuan.org, Stephane Ascoet <stephane.ascoet@univ-paris1.fr>
Subject: Re: This isn't an answer
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2020 10:31:29 +0100
On Mon, 2 Nov 2020 10:54:13 +0100
Stephane Ascoet <stephane.ascoet@univ-paris1.fr> wrote:

> Hi, If I'm not wrong, updating only the documentation doesn't solve
> the main concern of this bug witch is a brokening-scripts-change in
> "free" output

I think you should report this backward-incompatible change to the
upstream developers, as the devuan version of the free command comes
unmodified from the procps package

https://gitlab.com/procps-ng/procps/blob/master/Documentation/bugs.md

the change was made 6 years ago, in 3 commits, which removed the -o
option and renamed -a to -w, in addition to a different output format

https://gitlab.com/procps-ng/procps/-/commit/51cd57259aa752fd3b958f61d71e78b4ca7dbef6

as the procps backward-compatibility actually is not guaranteed, may be
it's better to read directly the /proc/meminfo file, as it would not
change in future releases

ciao!

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