Devuan bug report logs - #355
apt: Unexpected linkage dependency on libsystemd

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Message #5 received at submit@bugs.devuan.org (full text, mbox, reply):

Package: apt
Version: 1.8.2
Severity: normal

I observed a linkage dependency on libsystemd. This was unexpected for me
since I wouldn't expect a package manager depend on it. A package manager should
be as lean as possible.

Having reviewed the code, the only function using libsystemd is used to talk on dbus 
to inhibit system shutdown. Something which will work for systemd only.

Would it make sense to use dlopen() to dynamically load libsystemd when needed
and avoid the hard dependency on libsystemd? If systemd is installed, libsystemd
will be available anyways.

-- Package-specific info:

-- (no /etc/apt/preferences present) --
-- (/etc/apt/preferences.d/avoid-systemd present, but not submitted) --
-- (/etc/apt/sources.list present, but not submitted) --
-- (/etc/apt/sources.list.d/devuan.list present, but not submitted) --


-- System Information:
Debian Release: 10.0
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)

Kernel: Linux 4.19.0-6-amd64 (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=de_DE.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=de_DE.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8), LANGUAGE=de_DE.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash
Init: sysvinit (via /sbin/init)
LSM: AppArmor: enabled

Versions of packages apt depends on:
ii  adduser                 3.118
ii  debian-archive-keyring  2019.1
ii  gpgv                    2.2.12-1+deb10u1
ii  libapt-pkg5.0           1.8.2
ii  libc6                   2.28-10
ii  libgcc1                 1:8.3.0-6
ii  libgnutls30             3.6.7-4
ii  libseccomp2             2.3.3-4
ii  libstdc++6              8.3.0-6

Versions of packages apt recommends:
ii  ca-certificates  20190110

Versions of packages apt suggests:
pn  apt-doc         <none>
ii  aptitude        0.8.11-7
ii  dpkg-dev        1.19.7
ii  gnupg           2.2.12-1+deb10u1
ii  powermgmt-base  1.34
ii  synaptic        0.84.6

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Message #8 received at 355@bugs.devuan.org (full text, mbox, reply):

On Mon, 7 Oct 2019 19:50:34 +0200 Andreas Messer <andi@bastelmap.de> wrote:
> Package: apt
> Version: 1.8.2
> Severity: normal
> 
> I observed a linkage dependency on libsystemd. This was unexpected for me
> since I wouldn't expect a package manager depend on it. A package manager should
> be as lean as possible.

Andreas,

Thanks for this.

You are quite right that this dependency would be much better avoided.

I am interested in us fixing this in ceres/chimaera.

I know you have patched version 1.8  to remove libsystemd0. Would you care to
update that for the current ceres/chimaera version 2.0.1? We can then look at
including it in devuan-packages.

Thanks

Mark

Message #13 received at 355@bugs.devuan.org (full text, mbox, reply):

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Mark,

On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 12:02:20PM +0000, Mark Hindley wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Oct 2019 19:50:34 +0200 Andreas Messer <andi@bastelmap.de> wrote:
> > Package: apt
> > Version: 1.8.2
> > Severity: normal
> > 
> > I observed a linkage dependency on libsystemd. This was unexpected for me
> > since I wouldn't expect a package manager depend on it. A package manager should
> > be as lean as possible.
> 
> Andreas,
> 
> Thanks for this.
> 
> You are quite right that this dependency would be much better avoided.
> 
> I am interested in us fixing this in ceres/chimaera.
> 
> I know you have patched version 1.8  to remove libsystemd0. Would you care to
> update that for the current ceres/chimaera version 2.0.1? We can then look at
> including it in devuan-packages.

Sorry, missed that mail. Yes I can give it a try tomorrow. 

cheers,
Andreas
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Message #18 received at 355-done@bugs.devuan.org (full text, mbox, reply):

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Version: 2.0.1+devuan1

Finally prepared an own version of apt package with all systemd
dependencies removed.

cheers,
Andreas

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