From unknown Thu Mar 28 14:29:29 2024 X-Loop: owner@bugs.devuan.org Subject: bug#496: Has speech-dispatcher been forked? Reply-To: Gregory Nowak , 496-quiet@bugs.devuan.org Resent-From: Gregory Nowak Resent-To: Resent-Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2021 01:33:20 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@bugs.devuan.org X-Loop: owner@bugs.devuan.org X-Devuan-PR-Message: followup 496 X-Devuan-PR-Package: devuan-project X-Devuan-PR-Keywords: References: <159573846886.13963.13548811663893514592.reportbug@pegasus.gregn.net> <20210426113741.GA8083@anhrefn.saar.de> <159573846886.13963.13548811663893514592.reportbug@pegasus.gregn.net> Received: via spool by 496-quiet@bugs.devuan.org id=Q496.16194864034768 (code Q ref 496); Tue, 27 Apr 2021 01:33:20 +0000 Received: (at 496-quiet) by bugs.devuan.org; 27 Apr 2021 01:20:03 +0000 Delivered-To: devuanbugs@dyne.org Received: from tupac3.dyne.org [195.169.149.119] by doc.devuan.org with IMAP (fetchmail-6.4.0.beta4) for (single-drop); Tue, 27 Apr 2021 01:20:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vserver.gregn.net (vserver.gregn.net [174.136.110.154]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by vm6.ganeti.dyne.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1BD34F60B62; Tue, 27 Apr 2021 03:08:06 +0200 (CEST) Authentication-Results: vm6.ganeti.dyne.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gregn.net header.i=@gregn.net header.b="ZATUdzLc"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: from vbox.gregn.net (unknown [IPv6:2607:fb90:e513:eba0:1d51:526a:f2f2:965b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by vserver.gregn.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AD21CD3E; Mon, 26 Apr 2021 18:08:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=gregn.net; s=default; t=1619485687; bh=aqL+lZ6awcErIxEn8sIOe1TeGrO5l4Tr7Rae1B1WPdU=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=ZATUdzLcw/Kn0KDRyy5NM9yG/RMP3R26xhiyR+LuSTMy3OGgGh+ZKrQ3wZrd8Kgb/ ADLi1ktmDpGgV7l/ZDhzz24UfYrmAGcAAqMql6Ys65WFlItUmTreq0grKmN9tqOhMZ ZuHIpK7AcbuD6dDJWzy0JSQOnFdyg1Mc/ggpg7d/K+nb+WU9iQjeBsXNlAbGHSlwBi 9+cSX2b4cQc0r+Aew5deeAKeeyIj7flmhOwjVv1sUAmbdw1mYujDPJbK9ZCS0ygHhe tg/A3VGbHjAxqM9LV2IpRYsoF64E1E1x3vPRosHpj+HmiWsTGLnRuna7sS+0ix8gc9 V9f/G+wzqgOJA== Received: from greg by vbox.gregn.net with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lbCCm-0001cr-03; Mon, 26 Apr 2021 18:08:00 -0700 Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2021 18:07:59 -0700 From: Gregory Nowak To: Arne Wichmann , 496-quiet@bugs.devuan.org Cc: 496@bugs.devuan.org, 496-submitter@bugs.devuan.org Message-ID: <20210427010759.GA5657@gregn.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20210426113741.GA8083@anhrefn.saar.de> X-PGP-Key: http://www.gregn.net/pubkey.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.102.4 at vserver X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.2 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on tupac3.dyne.org No, speech-dispatcher hasn't been forked as far as I know; I certainly haven't done it yet. The inclusion of the debian-pulseaudio-config-override package in Beowulf and beyond raises a problem. Forking speech-dispatcher relies on pulseaudio being disabled by default. Uninstalling pulseaudio isn't possible in every case, since at least xfce, and perhaps other desktops seem to have a hard dependency on it. If speech-dispatcher was forked with the changes I proposed, and pulseaudio was enabled as the debian-pulseaudio-config-override package does, users would have no speech in the GUI or the text console, making the problem worse. The possible solutions I can think of are: 1. Don't install debian-pulseaudio-config-override by default, and fork speech-dispatcher with the changes I proposed. 2. Remove the hard dependency on pulseaudio from xfce and other desktops, and fork speech-dispatcher with the changes I proposed. 3. Don't fork speech-dispatcher, close this bug, and leave users who do a new install with speech at the text console, but not in the GUI by default until they manually resolve the situation, as is the case in debian right now. Greg