From unknown Thu Mar 28 17:24:47 2024 Received: (at submit) by bugs.devuan.org; 21 Jun 2021 11:40:03 +0000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: devuanbugs@dyne.org Received: from tupac3.dyne.org [195.169.149.119] by doc.devuan.org with IMAP (fetchmail-6.4.0.beta4) for (single-drop); Mon, 21 Jun 2021 11:40:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mo-sw.mose-mail.jp (mo-sw1801-0.mose-mail.jp [202.238.237.3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by vm6.ganeti.dyne.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 40449F6084B for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2021 13:39:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: by mo-sw.mose-mail.jp (mose-mo-sw1801) id 15LBdr7b011717; Mon, 21 Jun 2021 20:39:54 +0900 Received: from quark (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mbox.mose-mail.jp (mose-mbox1800) id 15LBdoM1005422 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2021 20:39:51 +0900 Received: from olaf (uid 1000) (envelope-from olaf@ueda.ne.jp) id 29c81e by quark (DragonFly Mail Agent v0.11); Mon, 21 Jun 2021 20:39:49 +0900 User-agent: mu4e 1.0; emacs 26.1 From: Olaf Meeuwissen To: Devuan Bug Tracking System Subject: No support for runit as init on air-gapped installs Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2021 20:39:49 +0900 Message-ID: <87v9671m62.fsf@quark> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=disabled version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on tupac3.dyne.org Package: devuan-installer Version: 4.0 I just checked the netinst ISOs from 20210618 and 20210621 for amd64 for the presence of runit-init. It is not included :-( This prevents air-gapped installs from getting a working runit based systems. The installer *silently* falls back to sysvinit. I've been able to replace sysvinit with runit-init after installation but that wasn't exactly a smooth ride. Nothing major, but enough to scare off less experienced users. Sorry, don't remember the details. Air-gapped installs selecting sysvinit and openrc work fine. It'd be nice if runit was supported on air-gapped installs as well. To be honest, I haven't tried the new installer images (yet) but I've encountered this with the 20210426 as well as 20210517(?) images and mentioned it on DNG for Beowulf installer images[1]. [1]: https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20210330.105856.3ee6a751.en.html The runit-init package is small, about 40K, so it would be nice to see this added to the netinst ISO so that all supported inits can be selected for air-gapped installs. If necessary, I can provide additional info using the latest ISOs next weekend. Note that runit claims to replace runit-init but that is a *versioned* dependency << 2.1.2-29~. At the same time runit claims to break those versions of runit-init. Maybe that's why runit-init is not included? Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2 FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Support Free Software https://my.fsf.org/donate Join the Free Software Foundation https://my.fsf.org/join From unknown Thu Mar 28 17:24:47 2024 Received: (at 584-done) by bugs.devuan.org; 14 Jul 2021 05:50:05 +0000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: devuanbugs@dyne.org Received: from tupac3.dyne.org [195.169.149.119] by doc.devuan.org with IMAP (fetchmail-6.4.0.beta4) for (single-drop); Wed, 14 Jul 2021 05:50:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pg1-f171.google.com (mail-pg1-f171.google.com [209.85.215.171]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by vm6.ganeti.dyne.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 06926F60877 for <584-done@bugs.devuan.org>; Wed, 14 Jul 2021 07:45:18 +0200 (CEST) Authentication-Results: vm6.ganeti.dyne.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="Ff7f26wF"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by mail-pg1-f171.google.com with SMTP id t9so1293031pgn.4 for <584-done@bugs.devuan.org>; Tue, 13 Jul 2021 22:45:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=sAXoyvMtbgfXR+HjGaGrSOh85QA45DaJNjTDM1pKMzA=; b=Ff7f26wFzEc2mUq6OTLZLL1KeIVD/lqfV/cPWVecy5/NzLAS8wPGo4nkzdfaCPxLqL KimtkY3TdXXf9E6F13SfPTWjo1y4hRka3f8ZcmuwRQGjnCGvoaWmXWxglbuGsFoZD/Zn Dr4iPio/meRq9/fWn00TdTEEj2PM44SuEOe8ewbGNkwexsWdLlE0m9sgO7Cyx0fyQ0MP eHr8vnucNsz9ui0S+zLCohSYDOEAnZHMptXA6iKmAvNuYBxirtP2+nQjK+3zW2SBsF8C SHErxoHd88Upd0MrEWtCpKDuWAlTgfDvxq5v0cVqRLEy0EeGjEZgsklrJw9dJnuji4bj omDQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=sAXoyvMtbgfXR+HjGaGrSOh85QA45DaJNjTDM1pKMzA=; b=uKe5/T1t5EPq6Vciu2hpaoSvG4JzxYtV6mq9ATBEpC0hkCzWYVvInWFog+14WJJFqR jU+CIkGbCng0Cb42Ux/KuhgHB8GMPuzrOxr+pKSXg3U96Wpc4iZ1HhOlS5XBvp++heyF L0JPOwhX7CuIeJLQN9cVsI2pHAE2qHSsw2d9W2C+V3QgieWwHleNyqqE1eBzxsL4gIeu lrX4RTV0770q1iNIEZgG94uLjk7yVKpt4chWgcjYl7zPySWJ8W3C6Lle4RpLLinm42zv nxl8hSNPJBu+R7GJ1IucgQQI0DqnW1Uu3Y6rp3z+80Y18lqcnfdaqH5/iuECOo/nZj3J c2xg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5332Wb7k14dKyv0y3I0M+nZ84TMo/J3VIdPT+H12d+AHj3fiP2A4 wJd9stsp9l67uH2JEsKJf1IIw0g0JTI= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyg5WbwcdyyYBRIBcjxyHVOfk22TDk1mbcRw/cApd2VNDhuoYfuOffqcdROwVDUPG7ht1BL/g== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6a00:2402:b029:302:eca8:4d1d with SMTP id z2-20020a056a002402b0290302eca84d1dmr8149527pfh.35.1626241516066; Tue, 13 Jul 2021 22:45:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stuga (14-201-124-121.tpgi.com.au. [14.201.124.121]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d23sm947859pjd.25.2021.07.13.22.45.14 for <584-done@bugs.devuan.org> (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 13 Jul 2021 22:45:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2021 15:45:08 +1000 From: Ralph Ronnquist To: 584-done@bugs.devuan.org Subject: Re: No support for runit as init on air-gapped installs Message-ID: <20210714154508.6810e3c0@stuga> In-Reply-To: <87v9671m62.fsf@quark> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.2 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on tupac3.dyne.org On Mon, 21 Jun 2021 20:39:49 +0900 Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: > Package: devuan-installer > Version: 4.0 > > I just checked the netinst ISOs from 20210618 and 20210621 for amd64 > for the presence of runit-init. It is not included :-( > > This prevents air-gapped installs from getting a working runit based > systems. The installer *silently* falls back to sysvinit. I've been > able to replace sysvinit with runit-init after installation but that > wasn't exactly a smooth ride. Nothing major, but enough to scare off > less experienced users. Sorry, don't remember the details. > > Air-gapped installs selecting sysvinit and openrc work fine. It'd be > nice if runit was supported on air-gapped installs as well. > > To be honest, I haven't tried the new installer images (yet) but I've > encountered this with the 20210426 as well as 20210517(?) images and > mentioned it on DNG for Beowulf installer images[1]. > > [1]: > https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20210330.105856.3ee6a751.en.html > > The runit-init package is small, about 40K, so it would be nice to see > this added to the netinst ISO so that all supported inits can be > selected for air-gapped installs. > > If necessary, I can provide additional info using the latest ISOs next > weekend. > > Note that runit claims to replace runit-init but that is a *versioned* > dependency << 2.1.2-29~. At the same time runit claims to break those > versions of runit-init. Maybe that's why runit-init is not included? > > Hope this helps, > -- > Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2 FSF Associate Member since > 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 > A88A F84A 2DD9 Support Free Software > https://my.fsf.org/donate Join the Free Software > Foundation https://my.fsf.org/join