Devuan bug report logs - #727
ntp* missing from desktop tasks

Package: src:tasksel; Maintainer for src:tasksel is Devuan Dev Team <devuan-dev@lists.dyne.org>;

Reported by: Valentin <valentin@ominous.space>

Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2022 16:32:02 UTC

Severity: normal

Found in version tasksel/3.68+devuan4u1

Fixed in version 3.71devuan1

Done: dak@devuan.org

Full log

Message #8 received at 727@bugs.devuan.org (full text, mbox, reply):

Received: (at 727) by bugs.devuan.org; 5 Dec 2022 17:09:02 +0000
Return-Path: <mark@hindley.org.uk>
Delivered-To: bugs@devuan.org
Received: from email.devuan.org [2001:41d0:2:d06e::5c4:2612]
	by doc.devuan.org with IMAP (fetchmail-6.4.16)
	for <debbugs@localhost> (single-drop); Mon, 05 Dec 2022 17:09:02 +0000 (UTC)
Received: from email.devuan.org
	by email.devuan.org with LMTP
	id gSScInAljmN8DgAAmSBk0A
	(envelope-from <mark@hindley.org.uk>)
	for <bugs@devuan.org>; Mon, 05 Dec 2022 17:08:00 +0000
Received: by email.devuan.org (Postfix, from userid 109)
	id 82F9C1C67; Mon,  5 Dec 2022 17:08:00 +0000 (UTC)
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on email.devuan.org
X-Spam-Level: 
X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.4 required=5.0 tests=RDNS_DYNAMIC,SPF_PASS
	autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6
Received-SPF: Pass (mailfrom) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=193.36.131.86; helo=mx.hindley.org.uk; envelope-from=mark@hindley.org.uk; receiver=<UNKNOWN> 
Received: from mx.hindley.org.uk (193-36-131-86.cfwn.uk [193.36.131.86])
	by email.devuan.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8E8B12E4
	for <727@bugs.devuan.org>; Mon,  5 Dec 2022 17:07:55 +0000 (UTC)
Received: from apollo.hindleynet ([192.168.1.3] helo=hindley.org.uk)
	by mx.hindley.org.uk with smtp (Exim 4.84_2)
	(envelope-from <mark@hindley.org.uk>)
	id 1p2Ewc-0007U7-4Z; Mon, 05 Dec 2022 17:07:54 +0000
Received: (nullmailer pid 5968 invoked by uid 1000);
	Mon, 05 Dec 2022 17:07:53 -0000
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2022 17:07:53 +0000
From: Mark Hindley <mark@hindley.org.uk>
To: Valentin <valentin@ominous.space>, 727@bugs.devuan.org
Subject: Re: bug#727: ntp* missing from desktop tasks
Message-ID: <Y44lacFxMiRO9ngo@hindley.org.uk>
References: <3661963.UdRIXHuQCc@whiskey>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
In-Reply-To: <3661963.UdRIXHuQCc@whiskey>
X-Debbugs-No-Ack: No Thanks

Valentin,

Thanks for this

On Mon, Dec 05, 2022 at 05:30:28PM +0100, Valentin wrote:
> Source: tasksel
> Version: 3.68+devuan4u1
> 
> Dear maintainers,
> 
> I noticed that my kde desktop environment, installed from the devuan installer 
> via tasksel, had the option to "Set date and time automatically" was greyed 
> out.
> 
> This is most likely due to the fact that on default debian desktop 
> installations the ability to set time via ntp is provided by systemd. therefor 
> it also affects some (or all) other desktop environments.
> 
> In order to have a fully functional desktop environment without systemd either 
> task-desktop, task-kde-desktop or desktop-base should contain an ntp client.

This seems reasonable. Maybe adding

 Recommends: time-daemon | ntpsec-ntpdate

to desktop-base is the best option. ntpd doesn't exist in ceres/daedalus and
ntpdate is only transitional.

Or maybe this should be kde-* only as I am not sure other desktops have a menu
item to set the time.

What do you think?

Mark

Send a report that this bug log contains spam.

Devuan bug report logs - #727 ntp* missing from desktop tasks

Devuan bug report logs - #727
ntp* missing from desktop tasks