Devuan bug report logs - #877
diffoscope: Installing diffoscope suggests installing systemd

Package: diffoscope; Maintainer for diffoscope is (unknown); Source for diffoscope is src:diffoscope.

Reported by: Alejandro Colomar <alx@kernel.org>

Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2025 13:38:02 UTC

Severity: minor

Done: Mark Hindley <mark@hindley.org.uk>

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From: Alejandro Colomar <alx@kernel.org>
To: Devuan Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.devuan.org>
Subject: diffoscope: Installing diffoscope suggests installing systemd
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2025 14:35:33 +0100
Package: diffoscope
Severity: minor

Dear Maintainer,

When trying to `apt-get install diffoscope`, I get 'systemd' as a
recommended package.  I suspect recommending systemd is not acceptable
in Devuan.  :)


Have a lovely day!
Alex


Here's what I see:

$ sudo apt-get install diffoscope
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
The following package was automatically installed and is no longer required:
  libept1.6.0t64
Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove it.
The following additional packages will be installed:
  aapt abootimg androguard android-framework-res android-libaapt android-libandroidfw
  android-libart android-libbacktrace android-libbase android-libcutils
  android-liblog android-libnativebridge android-libnativeloader android-libutils
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Recommended packages:
  systemd
The following NEW packages will be installed:
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-- System Information:
Distributor ID:	Devuan
Description:	Devuan GNU/Linux 6 (excalibur/ceres)
Release:	6
Codename:	excalibur ceres
Architecture: x86_64

Kernel: Linux 6.12.13-amd64 (SMP w/24 CPU threads; PREEMPT)
Kernel taint flags: TAINT_WARN
Locale: LANG=C.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=C.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8), LANGUAGE not set
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /usr/bin/dash
Init: sysvinit (via /sbin/init)
LSM: AppArmor: enabled

Versions of packages diffoscope depends on:
pn  diffoscope-minimal  <none>

Versions of packages diffoscope recommends:
ii  7zip                                           24.09+dfsg-4
pn  aapt                                           <none>
pn  abootimg                                       <none>
ii  acl                                            2.3.2-2+b1
pn  androguard                                     <none>
pn  apksigcopier                                   <none>
pn  apksigner                                      <none>
pn  apktool                                        <none>
pn  binutils-multiarch                             <none>
ii  bzip2                                          1.0.8-6
pn  caca-utils                                     <none>
ii  colord                                         1.4.7-1devuan1+b1
pn  coreboot-utils                                 <none>
pn  db-util                                        <none>
pn  default-jdk-headless | default-jdk | java-sdk  <none>
pn  device-tree-compiler                           <none>
pn  dexdump                                        <none>
pn  docx2txt                                       <none>
ii  e2fsprogs                                      1.47.2-1
pn  enjarify                                       <none>
pn  ffmpeg                                         <none>
pn  fontforge-extras                               <none>
pn  fonttools                                      <none>
pn  fp-utils                                       <none>
pn  genisoimage                                    <none>
ii  gettext                                        0.23.1-1
pn  ghc                                            <none>
ii  ghostscript                                    10.04.0~dfsg-2+b1
pn  giflib-tools                                   <none>
pn  gnumeric                                       <none>
ii  gnupg-utils                                    2.2.46-1+b1
ii  gpg                                            2.2.46-1+b1
pn  hdf5-tools                                     <none>
pn  html2text                                      <none>
ii  imagemagick                                    8:7.1.1.43+dfsg1-1
ii  imagemagick-7.q16 [imagemagick]                8:7.1.1.43+dfsg1-1
pn  jsbeautifier                                   <none>
pn  libarchive-tools                               <none>
pn  libxmlb-utils                                  <none>
pn  llvm                                           <none>
pn  lz4                                            <none>
ii  lzip                                           1.25-1
pn  mono-utils                                     <none>
pn  ocaml-nox                                      <none>
pn  odt2txt                                        <none>
pn  oggvideotools                                  <none>
ii  openssh-client                                 1:9.9p1-3
ii  openssl                                        3.4.1-1
ii  perl                                           5.40.0-8
pn  pgpdump                                        <none>
ii  poppler-utils                                  25.01.0-4
pn  procyon-decompiler                             <none>
pn  python3-argcomplete                            <none>
pn  python3-binwalk                                <none>
ii  python3-debian                                 0.1.49
pn  python3-defusedxml                             <none>
pn  python3-guestfs                                <none>
pn  python3-jsondiff                               <none>
pn  python3-pdfminer                               <none>
pn  python3-progressbar                            <none>
ii  python3-pypdf                                  4.3.1-1
pn  python3-pyxattr                                <none>
pn  python3-rpm                                    <none>
pn  python3-tlsh                                   <none>
pn  r-base-core                                    <none>
pn  radare2                                        <none>
pn  rpm2cpio                                       <none>
pn  sng                                            <none>
pn  sqlite3                                        <none>
pn  squashfs-tools                                 <none>
pn  systemd-ukify                                  <none>
pn  tcpdump                                        <none>
pn  u-boot-tools                                   <none>
ii  unzip                                          6.0-28
pn  wabt                                           <none>
pn  xmlbeans                                       <none>
pn  xxd                                            <none>
ii  xz-utils                                       5.6.3-1+b1
ii  zip                                            3.0-14
ii  zstd                                           1.5.6+dfsg-2

Versions of packages diffoscope suggests:
ii  libjs-jquery  3.6.1+dfsg+~3.5.14-1

Reply sent to Mark Hindley <mark@hindley.org.uk>:
You have taken responsibility. (Mon, 17 Feb 2025 10:00:01 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


Notification sent to Alejandro Colomar <alx@kernel.org>:
bug acknowledged by developer. (Mon, 17 Feb 2025 10:00:02 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


Message #10 received at 877-done@bugs.devuan.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Mark Hindley <mark@hindley.org.uk>
To: Alejandro Colomar <alx@kernel.org>, 877-done@bugs.devuan.org
Subject: Re: bug#877: diffoscope: Installing diffoscope suggests installing systemd
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2025 09:57:30 +0000
Alejandro,

Thanks for this.

As has already been mentioned, Devuan doesn't fork diffoscope and uses Debian's
packages directly without recompilation. This explains why the recommendation is
still present. Of course systemd itself is not available in Devuan[1], so apt
simply ignores the recommendation for an unavailable package.

Forking diffoscope (and the on-going maintenance that incurs) just to remove
this sort of cruft is not a useful use of our limited resources IMO.

If you can find breakage caused by the Recommends, please feel free to reopen
and provide details.

Mark

[1]  https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/policy-query.html??c=package&q=systemd


Message #11 received at 877-done@bugs.devuan.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Alejandro Colomar <alx@kernel.org>
To: Mark Hindley <mark@hindley.org.uk>
Cc: 877-done@bugs.devuan.org
Subject: Re: bug#877: diffoscope: Installing diffoscope suggests installing systemd
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2025 11:06:47 +0100
[Message part 1 (text/plain, inline)]
Hi Mark,

On Mon, Feb 17, 2025 at 09:57:30AM +0000, Mark Hindley wrote:
> Alejandro,
> 
> Thanks for this.
> 
> As has already been mentioned, Devuan doesn't fork diffoscope and uses Debian's
> packages directly without recompilation. This explains why the recommendation is
> still present. Of course systemd itself is not available in Devuan[1], so apt
> simply ignores the recommendation for an unavailable package.
> 
> Forking diffoscope (and the on-going maintenance that incurs) just to remove
> this sort of cruft is not a useful use of our limited resources IMO.

Makes sense.  That's fine.

> If you can find breakage caused by the Recommends, please feel free to reopen
> and provide details.

Maybe more concerning than the recommended package, are the ones that
will be installed.  I don't know if those are okay.  Could you please
confirm?

	systemd-boot-efi systemd-repart systemd-ukify

Those 3 packages will be installed as part of the installation of
diffoscope.


Have a lovely day!
Alex

> Mark
> 
> [1]  https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/policy-query.html??c=package&q=systemd
> 

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Acknowledgement sent to Mark Hindley <mark@hindley.org.uk>:
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Message #17 received at 877@bugs.devuan.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Mark Hindley <mark@hindley.org.uk>
To: Alejandro Colomar <alx@kernel.org>
Cc: 877@bugs.devuan.org
Subject: Re: bug#877: diffoscope: Installing diffoscope suggests installing systemd
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2025 10:37:39 +0000
Alejandro,

On Mon, Feb 17, 2025 at 11:06:47AM +0100, Alejandro Colomar wrote:
> Maybe more concerning than the recommended package, are the ones that
> will be installed.  I don't know if those are okay.  Could you please
> confirm?
> 
> 	systemd-boot-efi systemd-repart systemd-ukify

A quick look indicated diffoscope Recommends systemd-ukify which then Recommends
the other 2.

I have no in-depth experience of any. You can always remove them or even prevent
apt installing them in the first with the --no-install-recommends flag.

I don't see anything to suggest they are at odds with Devuan's primary purpose
of avoiding systemd as PID1.

HTH.

Mark

Information forwarded to devuan-bugs@lists.dyne.org, devuan-dev@lists.dyne.org:
bug#877; Package diffoscope. (Mon, 17 Feb 2025 10:54:21 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


Acknowledgement sent to Alejandro Colomar <alx@kernel.org>:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to devuan-dev@lists.dyne.org. (Mon, 17 Feb 2025 10:54:22 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


Message #22 received at 877@bugs.devuan.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Alejandro Colomar <alx@kernel.org>
To: Mark Hindley <mark@hindley.org.uk>
Cc: 877@bugs.devuan.org
Subject: Re: bug#877: diffoscope: Installing diffoscope suggests installing systemd
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2025 11:52:41 +0100
[Message part 1 (text/plain, inline)]
Hi Mark,

On Mon, Feb 17, 2025 at 10:37:39AM +0000, Mark Hindley wrote:
> Alejandro,
> 
> On Mon, Feb 17, 2025 at 11:06:47AM +0100, Alejandro Colomar wrote:
> > Maybe more concerning than the recommended package, are the ones that
> > will be installed.  I don't know if those are okay.  Could you please
> > confirm?
> > 
> > 	systemd-boot-efi systemd-repart systemd-ukify
> 
> A quick look indicated diffoscope Recommends systemd-ukify which then Recommends
> the other 2.
> 
> I have no in-depth experience of any. You can always remove them or even prevent
> apt installing them in the first with the --no-install-recommends flag.

I can't do that, because diffoscope doesn't work well if some
recommended packages aren't installed, IIRC.  I don't remember the
exact details, but I had that issue in the past.

> I don't see anything to suggest they are at odds with Devuan's primary purpose
> of avoiding systemd as PID1.

Okay.  I don't know those packages either, so let's install them.  :)

> 
> HTH.

It does!  :-)


Cheers,
Alex

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Acknowledgement sent to Alejandro Colomar <alx@kernel.org>:
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bug#877; Package diffoscope. (Tue, 18 Feb 2025 08:44:01 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


Acknowledgement sent to Simon Richter <sjr@debian.org>:
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Message #32 received at 877@bugs.devuan.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Simon Richter <sjr@debian.org>
To: 877@bugs.devuan.org
Subject: Re: [devuan-dev] bug#877: diffoscope: Installing diffoscope suggests installing systemd
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2025 17:35:01 +0900
Hi,

On 2/17/25 19:37, Mark Hindley wrote:

>> 	systemd-boot-efi systemd-repart systemd-ukify

> A quick look indicated diffoscope Recommends systemd-ukify which then Recommends
> the other 2.

That's probably so diffoscope can dissect UKI images in order to compare 
their contents. For some reason the secure boot signing tools are in the 
"systemd-repart" package, that might be required for signature checks as 
well.

The bootloader, obviously, is not required for diffoscope to work.

   Simon

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