Devuan bug report logs - #878
loginctl[2676]: Failed to connect to bus: No such file or directory

Package: runit-services; Maintainer for runit-services is (unknown); Source for runit-services is src:runit-services.

Reported by: Andrew Bower <andrew@bower.uk>

Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2025 19:10:01 UTC

Severity: normal

Tags: debian, moreinfo, unreproducible

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From: Andrew Bower <andrew@bower.uk>
To: Devuan Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.devuan.org>
Subject: loginctl[2676]: Failed to connect to bus: No such file or directory
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2025 19:07:43 +0000
Package: elogind
Version: 255.17-2
Severity: normal

Dear Maintainer,

I see this reported through syslog at the error level:

  loginctl[2676]: Failed to connect to bus: No such file or directory

I'm not aware of anything notably special about my environment. I've not
noticed it before, but that's probably because I just switched syslog daemon.

Thanks,

Andrew


-- System Information:
Distributor ID:	Devuan
Description:	Devuan GNU/Linux 6 (excalibur/ceres)
Release:	6
Codename:	excalibur ceres
Architecture: x86_64

Kernel: Linux 6.10.9-amd64 (SMP w/4 CPU threads; PREEMPT)
Locale: LANG=en_GB.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_GB.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8), LANGUAGE=en_GB:en
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /usr/bin/dash
Init: runit (via /run/runit.stopit)

Versions of packages elogind depends on:
ii  dbus                  1.16.2-1devuan1
ii  debconf               1.5.89
ii  init-system-helpers   1.68devuan1
ii  libacl1               2.3.2-2+b1
ii  libc6                 2.41-3
ii  libcap2               1:2.73-4
ii  libelogind0           255.17-2
ii  libeudev1 [libudev1]  3.2.14-2
ii  libmount1             2.40.4-5devuan1
ii  libpam0g              1.7.0-3
ii  libselinux1           3.8-4

Versions of packages elogind recommends:
ii  libpam-elogind  255.17-2
ii  polkitd         126-2devuan1

elogind suggests no packages.

-- no debconf information

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From: Mark Hindley <mark@hindley.org.uk>
To: Andrew Bower <andrew@bower.uk>, 878@bugs.devuan.org
Subject: Re: bug#878: loginctl[2676]: Failed to connect to bus: No such file or directory
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2025 18:29:08 +0000
Control: tags -1 unreproducible moreinfo

Andrew,

Thanks for this. However, I cannot reproduce on a sysvinit ceres system. I
wonder if it is a failure in the runit dbus scripts?

On Fri, Mar 07, 2025 at 07:07:43PM +0000, Andrew Bower wrote:
> Package: elogind
> Version: 255.17-2
> Severity: normal
> 
> Dear Maintainer,
> 
> I see this reported through syslog at the error level:
> 
>   loginctl[2676]: Failed to connect to bus: No such file or directory

Is this every time or only the first time?

That sounds as if system dbus isn't running. What is the output of

 ps -lfC dbus-daemon

If the system bus *is* running, what does

 busctl

show?

Mark

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Subject: bug#878: loginctl[2676]: Failed to connect to bus: No such file or directory
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2025 18:29:08 +0000
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Andrew,

Thanks for this. However, I cannot reproduce on a sysvinit ceres system. I
wonder if it is a failure in the runit dbus scripts?

On Fri, Mar 07, 2025 at 07:07:43PM +0000, Andrew Bower wrote:
> Package: elogind
> Version: 255.17-2
> Severity: normal
> 
> Dear Maintainer,
> 
> I see this reported through syslog at the error level:
> 
>   loginctl[2676]: Failed to connect to bus: No such file or directory

Is this every time or only the first time?

That sounds as if system dbus isn't running. What is the output of

 ps -lfC dbus-daemon

If the system bus *is* running, what does

 busctl

show?

Mark

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Subject: bug#878: loginctl[2676]: Failed to connect to bus: No such file or directory
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2025 18:29:08 +0000
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Andrew,

Thanks for this. However, I cannot reproduce on a sysvinit ceres system. I
wonder if it is a failure in the runit dbus scripts?

On Fri, Mar 07, 2025 at 07:07:43PM +0000, Andrew Bower wrote:
> Package: elogind
> Version: 255.17-2
> Severity: normal
> 
> Dear Maintainer,
> 
> I see this reported through syslog at the error level:
> 
>   loginctl[2676]: Failed to connect to bus: No such file or directory

Is this every time or only the first time?

That sounds as if system dbus isn't running. What is the output of

 ps -lfC dbus-daemon

If the system bus *is* running, what does

 busctl

show?

Mark

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Andrew,

Thanks for this. However, I cannot reproduce on a sysvinit ceres system. I
wonder if it is a failure in the runit dbus scripts?

On Fri, Mar 07, 2025 at 07:07:43PM +0000, Andrew Bower wrote:
> Package: elogind
> Version: 255.17-2
> Severity: normal
> 
> Dear Maintainer,
> 
> I see this reported through syslog at the error level:
> 
>   loginctl[2676]: Failed to connect to bus: No such file or directory

Is this every time or only the first time?

That sounds as if system dbus isn't running. What is the output of

 ps -lfC dbus-daemon

If the system bus *is* running, what does

 busctl

show?

Mark

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Andrew,

Thanks for this. However, I cannot reproduce on a sysvinit ceres system. I
wonder if it is a failure in the runit dbus scripts?

On Fri, Mar 07, 2025 at 07:07:43PM +0000, Andrew Bower wrote:
> Package: elogind
> Version: 255.17-2
> Severity: normal
> 
> Dear Maintainer,
> 
> I see this reported through syslog at the error level:
> 
>   loginctl[2676]: Failed to connect to bus: No such file or directory

Is this every time or only the first time?

That sounds as if system dbus isn't running. What is the output of

 ps -lfC dbus-daemon

If the system bus *is* running, what does

 busctl

show?

Mark

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From: Mark Hindley <mark@hindley.org.uk>
To: Andrew Bower <andrew@bower.uk>, 878@bugs.devuan.org
Subject: bug#878: loginctl[2676]: Failed to connect to bus: No such file or directory
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2025 18:29:08 +0000
Control: tags -1 unreproducible moreinfo

Andrew,

Thanks for this. However, I cannot reproduce on a sysvinit ceres system. I
wonder if it is a failure in the runit dbus scripts?

On Fri, Mar 07, 2025 at 07:07:43PM +0000, Andrew Bower wrote:
> Package: elogind
> Version: 255.17-2
> Severity: normal
> 
> Dear Maintainer,
> 
> I see this reported through syslog at the error level:
> 
>   loginctl[2676]: Failed to connect to bus: No such file or directory

Is this every time or only the first time?

That sounds as if system dbus isn't running. What is the output of

 ps -lfC dbus-daemon

If the system bus *is* running, what does

 busctl

show?

Mark

Information forwarded to devuan-bugs@lists.dyne.org, Mark Hindley <mark@hindley.org.uk>:
bug#878; Package elogind. (Sat, 08 Mar 2025 18:44:01 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


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From: Mark Hindley <mark@hindley.org.uk>
To: Andrew Bower <andrew@bower.uk>, 878@bugs.devuan.org
Subject: bug#878: loginctl[2676]: Failed to connect to bus: No such file or directory
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2025 18:29:08 +0000
Control: tags -1 unreproducible moreinfo

Andrew,

Thanks for this. However, I cannot reproduce on a sysvinit ceres system. I
wonder if it is a failure in the runit dbus scripts?

On Fri, Mar 07, 2025 at 07:07:43PM +0000, Andrew Bower wrote:
> Package: elogind
> Version: 255.17-2
> Severity: normal
> 
> Dear Maintainer,
> 
> I see this reported through syslog at the error level:
> 
>   loginctl[2676]: Failed to connect to bus: No such file or directory

Is this every time or only the first time?

That sounds as if system dbus isn't running. What is the output of

 ps -lfC dbus-daemon

If the system bus *is* running, what does

 busctl

show?

Mark

Information forwarded to devuan-bugs@lists.dyne.org, Mark Hindley <mark@hindley.org.uk>:
bug#878; Package elogind. (Sat, 08 Mar 2025 18:46:04 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


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From: Mark Hindley <mark@hindley.org.uk>
To: Andrew Bower <andrew@bower.uk>, 878@bugs.devuan.org
Subject: bug#878: loginctl[2676]: Failed to connect to bus: No such file or directory
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2025 18:29:08 +0000
Control: tags -1 unreproducible moreinfo

Andrew,

Thanks for this. However, I cannot reproduce on a sysvinit ceres system. I
wonder if it is a failure in the runit dbus scripts?

On Fri, Mar 07, 2025 at 07:07:43PM +0000, Andrew Bower wrote:
> Package: elogind
> Version: 255.17-2
> Severity: normal
> 
> Dear Maintainer,
> 
> I see this reported through syslog at the error level:
> 
>   loginctl[2676]: Failed to connect to bus: No such file or directory

Is this every time or only the first time?

That sounds as if system dbus isn't running. What is the output of

 ps -lfC dbus-daemon

If the system bus *is* running, what does

 busctl

show?

Mark

Information forwarded to devuan-bugs@lists.dyne.org, Mark Hindley <mark@hindley.org.uk>:
bug#878; Package elogind. (Sat, 08 Mar 2025 18:48:01 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


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Subject: bug#878: loginctl[2676]: Failed to connect to bus: No such file or directory
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2025 18:29:08 +0000
Control: tags -1 unreproducible moreinfo

Andrew,

Thanks for this. However, I cannot reproduce on a sysvinit ceres system. I
wonder if it is a failure in the runit dbus scripts?

On Fri, Mar 07, 2025 at 07:07:43PM +0000, Andrew Bower wrote:
> Package: elogind
> Version: 255.17-2
> Severity: normal
> 
> Dear Maintainer,
> 
> I see this reported through syslog at the error level:
> 
>   loginctl[2676]: Failed to connect to bus: No such file or directory

Is this every time or only the first time?

That sounds as if system dbus isn't running. What is the output of

 ps -lfC dbus-daemon

If the system bus *is* running, what does

 busctl

show?

Mark

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From: Mark Hindley <mark@hindley.org.uk>
To: Andrew Bower <andrew@bower.uk>, 878@bugs.devuan.org
Subject: bug#878: loginctl[2676]: Failed to connect to bus: No such file or directory
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2025 18:29:08 +0000
Control: tags -1 unreproducible moreinfo

Andrew,

Thanks for this. However, I cannot reproduce on a sysvinit ceres system. I
wonder if it is a failure in the runit dbus scripts?

On Fri, Mar 07, 2025 at 07:07:43PM +0000, Andrew Bower wrote:
> Package: elogind
> Version: 255.17-2
> Severity: normal
> 
> Dear Maintainer,
> 
> I see this reported through syslog at the error level:
> 
>   loginctl[2676]: Failed to connect to bus: No such file or directory

Is this every time or only the first time?

That sounds as if system dbus isn't running. What is the output of

 ps -lfC dbus-daemon

If the system bus *is* running, what does

 busctl

show?

Mark

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From: Andrew Bower <andrew@bower.uk>
To: Mark Hindley <mark@hindley.org.uk>
Cc: 878@bugs.devuan.org
Subject: Re: bug#878: loginctl[2676]: Failed to connect to bus: No such file or directory
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2025 09:22:13 +0000
Hi Mark,

On Sat, Mar 08, 2025 at 06:29:08PM +0000, Mark Hindley wrote:
> Thanks for this. However, I cannot reproduce on a sysvinit ceres system. I
> wonder if it is a failure in the runit dbus scripts?

Sorry for the delay checking this.

You are probably right to suggest that it is much more likely to be an
issue with the startup sequencing under runit than a bug in src:elogind.

I just tried with the pending runit-service that includes

https://salsa.debian.org/debian/runit-services/-/commit/a143a4ed2970ab805a8402da928506f108f8d924

to improve dbus readiness checking but that didn't help. Perhaps I
should check on a Debian/runit host so this ends up in the right BTS.

> On Fri, Mar 07, 2025 at 07:07:43PM +0000, Andrew Bower wrote:
> > 
> > I see this reported through syslog at the error level:
> > 
> >   loginctl[2676]: Failed to connect to bus: No such file or directory
> 
> Is this every time or only the first time?

Once on startup. I've not noticed any functional degradation.

> That sounds as if system dbus isn't running. What is the output of
> 
>  ps -lfC dbus-daemon

F S UID        PID  PPID  C PRI  NI ADDR SZ WCHAN  STIME TTY          TIME CMD
4 S message+  2879  2867  3  80   0 -  1777 -      09:07 ?        00:00:07 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --system --nofork --nopidfile
1 S ajb85     4527     1  0  80   0 -  1669 -      09:08 ?        00:00:00 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --syslog --fork --print-pid 5 --print-address 7 --session
0 S ajb85     4566  4560  0  80   0 -  1514 -      09:08 ?        00:00:00 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --config-file=/usr/share/defaults/at-spi2/accessibility.conf --nofork --print-address 11 --address=unix:path=/run/user/1000/at-spi/bus_0.0

> If the system bus *is* running, what does
> 
>  busctl
> 
> show?

NAME                                  PID PROCESS         USER    CONNECTION    UNIT   SESSION DESCRIPTION
:1.0                                 2887 cupsd           root    :1.0          -      -       -
:1.1                                 3359 colord          colord  :1.1          -      -       -
:1.11                                2919 NetworkManager  root    :1.11         -      -       -
:1.13                                2985 power-profiles- root    :1.13         -      -       -
:1.14                                3516 polkitd         polkitd :1.14         -      -       -
:1.17                                3530 saned           saned   :1.17         -      -       -
:1.19                                3017 bluetoothd      root    :1.19         -      -       -
:1.25                                3021 elogind         root    :1.25         -      -       -
:1.27                                2789 cups-browsed    root    :1.27         -      -       -
:1.28                                2789 cups-browsed    root    :1.28         -      -       -
:1.29                                3737 wpa_supplicant  root    :1.29         -      -       -
:1.30                                3739 ModemManager    root    :1.30         -      -       -
:1.32                                4074 python3         root    :1.32         docker -       -
:1.35                                4195 dbus            lp      :1.35         -      -       -
:1.37                                4475 gnome-keyring-d ajb85   :1.37         1      -       -
:1.38                                4479 xfce4-session   ajb85   :1.38         1      -       -
:1.39                                4656 xfce4-panel     ajb85   :1.39         1      -       -
:1.4                                 3497 dbus            lp      :1.4          -      -       -
:1.40                                4676 xfce4-power-man ajb85   :1.40         1      -       -
:1.41                                4712 upowerd         root    :1.41         -      -       -
:1.43                                4673 wrapper-2.0     ajb85   :1.43         1      -       -
:1.44                                4756 xdg-desktop-por ajb85   :1.44         1      -       -
:1.45                                4773 gvfs-udisks2-vo ajb85   :1.45         1      -       -
:1.46                                4729 xdg-desktop-por ajb85   :1.46         1      -       -
:1.47                                4779 udisksd         root    :1.47         -      -       -
:1.48                                4790 rtkit-daemon    root    :1.48         -      -       -
:1.49                                4672 wrapper-2.0     ajb85   :1.49         1      -       -
:1.5                                 3495 dbus            lp      :1.5          -      -       -
:1.51                                4877 agent           ajb85   :1.51         1      -       -
:1.52                                4890 xscreensaver-sy ajb85   :1.52         1      -       -
:1.53                                4903 xiccd           ajb85   :1.53         1      -       -
:1.54                                4891 polkit-gnome-au ajb85   :1.54         1      -       -
:1.55                                4871 nm-applet       ajb85   :1.55         1      -       -
:1.56                                4901 applet.py       ajb85   :1.56         1      -       -
:1.57                                4857 wireplumber     ajb85   :1.57         1      -       -
:1.58                                4857 wireplumber     ajb85   :1.58         1      -       -
:1.6                                 3496 dbus            lp      :1.6          -      -       -
:1.60                                4675 nextcloud       ajb85   :1.60         1      -       -
:1.63                                6357 busctl          root    :1.63         1      -       -
:1.9                                 2980 avahi-daemon    avahi   :1.9          -      -       -
com.redhat.NewPrinterNotification    4901 applet.py       ajb85   :1.56         1      -       -
com.redhat.PrinterDriversInstaller   4901 applet.py       ajb85   :1.56         1      -       -
fi.w1.wpa_supplicant1                3737 wpa_supplicant  root    :1.29         -      -       -
net.hadess.PowerProfiles             2985 power-profiles- root    :1.13         -      -       -
org.bluez                            3017 bluetoothd      root    :1.19         -      -       -
org.freedesktop.Avahi                2980 avahi-daemon    avahi   :1.9          -      -       -
org.freedesktop.ColorManager         3359 colord          colord  :1.1          -      -       -
org.freedesktop.DBus                 2879 dbus-daemon     root    -             -      -       -
org.freedesktop.GeoClue2                - -               -       (activatable) -      -       -
org.freedesktop.ModemManager1        3739 ModemManager    root    :1.30         -      -       -
org.freedesktop.NetworkManager       2919 NetworkManager  root    :1.11         -      -       -
org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1           3516 polkitd         polkitd :1.14         -      -       -
org.freedesktop.RealtimeKit1         4790 rtkit-daemon    root    :1.48         -      -       -
org.freedesktop.UDisks2              4779 udisksd         root    :1.47         -      -       -
org.freedesktop.UPower               4712 upowerd         root    :1.41         -      -       -
org.freedesktop.UPower.PowerProfiles 2985 power-profiles- root    :1.13         -      -       -
org.freedesktop.login1               3021 elogind         root    :1.25         -      -       -
org.freedesktop.nm_dispatcher           - -               -       (activatable) -      -       -
org.freedesktop.nm_priv_helper          - -               -       (activatable) -      -       -
org.opensuse.CupsPkHelper.Mechanism     - -               -       (activatable) -      -       -

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From: Andrew Bower <andrew@bower.uk>
To: 878@bugs.devuan.org
Subject: Re: bug#878: loginctl[2676]: Failed to connect to bus: No such file or directory
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2025 10:39:38 +0000
On Sun, Mar 16, 2025 at 09:22:14AM +0000, Andrew Bower wrote:
> to improve dbus readiness checking but that didn't help. Perhaps I
> should check on a Debian/runit host so this ends up in the right BTS.

I cannot reproduce this on Debian/runit.

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From: Mark Hindley <mark@hindley.org.uk>
To: Andrew Bower <andrew@bower.uk>, 878@bugs.devuan.org
Subject: Re: bug#878: loginctl[2676]: Failed to connect to bus: No such file or directory
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2025 19:19:10 +0000
Andrew,

On Sun, Mar 16, 2025 at 09:22:13AM +0000, Andrew Bower wrote:
> > > I see this reported through syslog at the error level:
> > > 
> > >   loginctl[2676]: Failed to connect to bus: No such file or directory
> > 
> > Is this every time or only the first time?
> 
> Once on startup. I've not noticed any functional degradation.

So where is that loginctl call coming from? It looks like it happens *before*
the system dbus is started.

Mark

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Message #73 received at 878@bugs.devuan.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Andrew Bower <andrew@bower.uk>
To: Mark Hindley <mark@hindley.org.uk>, Lorenzo Puliti <plorenzo@disroot.org>
Cc: 878@bugs.devuan.org
Subject: Re: bug#878: loginctl[2676]: Failed to connect to bus: No such file or directory
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2025 21:17:20 +0000
On Sun, Mar 16, 2025 at 07:19:10PM +0000, Mark Hindley wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 16, 2025 at 09:22:13AM +0000, Andrew Bower wrote:
> > > > I see this reported through syslog at the error level:
> > > > 
> > > >   loginctl[2676]: Failed to connect to bus: No such file or directory
> > > 
> > > Is this every time or only the first time?
> > 
> > Once on startup. I've not noticed any functional degradation.
> 
> So where is that loginctl call coming from? It looks like it happens *before*
> the system dbus is started.

I suspect it's the elogind check script (/etc/sv/elogind/check). Let's
bring in Lorenzo.

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To: Andrew Bower <andrew@bower.uk>
Cc: Mark Hindley <mark@hindley.org.uk>, 878@bugs.devuan.org
Subject: Re: bug#878: loginctl[2676]: Failed to connect to bus: No such file or directory
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2025 01:10:57 +0100
On Sun, 16 Mar 2025 21:17:20 +0000
Andrew Bower <andrew@bower.uk> wrote:

> On Sun, Mar 16, 2025 at 07:19:10PM +0000, Mark Hindley wrote:
> > On Sun, Mar 16, 2025 at 09:22:13AM +0000, Andrew Bower wrote:
> > > > > I see this reported through syslog at the error level:
> > > > > 
> > > > >   loginctl[2676]: Failed to connect to bus: No such file or
> > > > > directory
> > > > 
> > > > Is this every time or only the first time?
> > > 
> > > Once on startup. I've not noticed any functional degradation.
> > 
> > So where is that loginctl call coming from? It looks like it
> > happens *before* the system dbus is started.
> 
> I suspect it's the elogind check script (/etc/sv/elogind/check). Let's
> bring in Lorenzo.

very likely; since dbus, elogind and login managers are started at the
same time, I'd expect elogind check at least to fail once at boot.

> I cannot reproduce this on Debian/runit.
Humm, I'd expect this on Debian too, but it's a race so it could be
intermittent

cat /etc/service/elogind/check 
#!/bin/sh

# race: greyed buttons on lightdm/sddm
# make sure that elogind can see the login and that will open a session for the user
loginctl show-seat seat0 >/dev/null && exit 0
exit 1

I guess I should silence stderr instead of stdout (or both)?
Anyway, unless I'm missing something, it's a minor bug in
runit-services.

Best,
Lorenzo


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From: Mark Hindley <mark@hindley.org.uk>
To: Lorenzo <plorenzo@disroot.org>
Cc: Andrew Bower <andrew@bower.uk>, 878@bugs.devuan.org
Subject: Re: bug#878: loginctl[2676]: Failed to connect to bus: No such file or directory
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2025 06:49:37 +0000
On Mon, Mar 17, 2025 at 01:10:57AM +0100, Lorenzo wrote:
> > I suspect it's the elogind check script (/etc/sv/elogind/check). Let's
> > bring in Lorenzo.
> 
> very likely; since dbus, elogind and login managers are started at the
> same time, I'd expect elogind check at least to fail once at boot.

Wouldn't it be better to start dbus first?

Mark

bug reassigned from package 'elogind' to 'runit-services'. Request was from Mark Hindley <mark@hindley.org.uk> to control@bugs.devuan.org. (Mon, 17 Mar 2025 06:54:02 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


No longer marked as found in versions elogind/255.17-2. Request was from Mark Hindley <mark@hindley.org.uk> to control@bugs.devuan.org. (Mon, 17 Mar 2025 06:54:02 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


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From: Lorenzo <plorenzo@disroot.org>
To: Mark Hindley <mark@hindley.org.uk>
Cc: Andrew Bower <andrew@bower.uk>, 878@bugs.devuan.org
Subject: Re: bug#878: loginctl[2676]: Failed to connect to bus: No such file or directory
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2025 11:23:26 +0100
On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 06:49:37 +0000
Mark Hindley <mark@hindley.org.uk> wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 17, 2025 at 01:10:57AM +0100, Lorenzo wrote:
> > > I suspect it's the elogind check script (/etc/sv/elogind/check).
> > > Let's bring in Lorenzo.
> > 
> > very likely; since dbus, elogind and login managers are started at
> > the same time, I'd expect elogind check at least to fail once at
> > boot.
> 
> Wouldn't it be better to start dbus first?
> 
> Mark

yeah, we already do that, (elogind waits for dbus) but the way the
start "sequence" works in runit imply that the elogind check file is
run to check whether elogind is available when starting a login manager
and there is no guarantee that elogind is ready in the first iteration.
I guess Andrew is using a login manager that has no hard dependency on
dbus so the run file, after checking for dbus proceeds on checking for
elogind even if dbus is not ready yet ..
Andrew, are you using slim or sddm ?

Lorenzo

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From: Andrew Bower <andrew@bower.uk>
To: Lorenzo <plorenzo@disroot.org>
Cc: Mark Hindley <mark@hindley.org.uk>, 878@bugs.devuan.org
Subject: Re: bug#878: loginctl[2676]: Failed to connect to bus: No such file or directory
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2025 18:41:22 +0000
On Mon, Mar 17, 2025 at 11:23:26AM +0100, Lorenzo wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 06:49:37 +0000
> Mark Hindley <mark@hindley.org.uk> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Mar 17, 2025 at 01:10:57AM +0100, Lorenzo wrote:
> > > > I suspect it's the elogind check script (/etc/sv/elogind/check).
> > > > Let's bring in Lorenzo.
> > > 
> > > very likely; since dbus, elogind and login managers are started at
> > > the same time, I'd expect elogind check at least to fail once at
> > > boot.
> > 
> > Wouldn't it be better to start dbus first?
> > 
> > Mark
> 
> yeah, we already do that, (elogind waits for dbus) but the way the
> start "sequence" works in runit imply that the elogind check file is
> run to check whether elogind is available when starting a login manager
> and there is no guarantee that elogind is ready in the first iteration.
> I guess Andrew is using a login manager that has no hard dependency on
> dbus so the run file, after checking for dbus proceeds on checking for
> elogind even if dbus is not ready yet ..
> Andrew, are you using slim or sddm ?

slim:

  sv start dbus || true
  sv start elogind || true

But 'sv start' will run the check script, won't it, which now tests a
dbus 'ping'.

So probably on my system it is what we (I) recently added [1],

docker:

  sv start elogind

But I don't think we want to start encoding transitive dependencies
which aren't also first class dependencies, so I think we just divert
stderr in the dbus check file as you first suggested!

-Andrew

[1] https://salsa.debian.org/debian/runit-services/-/commit/047d1c88479f0ab750bacdb45a1113d1269641b4

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