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/etc/logrotate.d/lighttpd: Questionable use of invoke-rc.d

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Package: init-system-helpers; Maintainer for init-system-helpers is Devuan Dev Team <devuan-dev@lists.dyne.org>; Source for init-system-helpers is src:init-system-helpers.

Reported by: Opty <opty77@gmail.com>

Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2025 12:44:01 UTC

Severity: normal

Tags: debian, moreinfo

Merged with 881, 883, 884

Found in version init-system-helpers/1.65.2devuan1

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Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2025 14:12:08 +0200
From: Lorenzo <plorenzo@disroot.org>
To: Opty <opty77@gmail.com>
Cc: 882@bugs.devuan.org, devuan developers internal list
 <devuan-dev@lists.dyne.org>, Mark Hindley <mark@hindley.org.uk>
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On Wed, 2 Apr 2025 13:56:10 +0200
Opty <opty77@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 1, 2025 at 6:36 PM Mark Hindley <mark@hindley.org.uk>
> wrote:
> > However, I am sure that lighttpd isn't forked in Devuan and so this
> > should be reported directly to Debian's BTS.
> 
> Now that Debian uses systemd by default I considered Devuan a better
> place for System V style init stuff but I will think about reporting
> to Debian BTS then.

Please don't: while this may solve your use case it will break other
more common use cases that are currently working.
Example:
lighttpd installed but disabled by the local admin (K links) but if
service wrapper is used instead of invoke-rc.d the logrotate snippet
will try to signal lighttpd regardless, which should not happen.

on a side note, runit is currently using invoke-rc.d to forward
logrotate actions to runit services, so your change would break that too

Regards,
Lorenzo

> 
> Regards,
> Opty
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