Devuan bug report logs - #904
coreutils: key package depends on libsystemd

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Package: src:coreutils; Maintainer for src:coreutils is Devuan Developers <devuan-dev@lists.dyne.org>;

Reported by: Andrew Bower <andrew@bower.uk>

Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2025 22:02:01 UTC

Severity: normal

Found in version coreutils/9.7-1

Fixed in version 9.7-3devuan1

Done: dak@devuan.org

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From: Andrew Bower <andrew@bower.uk>
To: submit@bugs.devuan.org
Cc: Mark Hindley <mark@hindley.org.uk>
Subject: coreutils: key package depends on libsystemd
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2025 23:00:51 +0100
Source: coreutils
Version: 9.7-1
Severity: normal

Dear Devuan developers,

Since 9.7-1 and including 9.7-3, coreutils has depended on libsystemd.
This was added under pressure as part of https://bugs.debian.org/1080330
and discussions in debian-devel to enable 'who' to obtain current
longed-in user information from the seat manager, e.g. elogind, instead
of /run/utmp.

The Devuan project should consider if it wishes to fork this package to
avoid making every Excalibur installation necessarily include
libsystemd when it might not othewise have needed to do so

In #900 on Tue, Jul 29, 2025 at 11:10:45AM +0100, Mark Hindley wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2025 at 09:06:10PM +0100, Andrew Bower wrote:
> > > I believe the original impetus to remove libsystemd linkage from procps 
> > > was to reduce libsystemd infiltration into 'core' utilities. 
> > 
> > I am all in favour of that ambition. I don't think the key
> > building-block packages should depend on libsystemd, hence my
> > disappointment when coreutils recently gained the dependency (should we
> > be forking that?)
> 
> Hmmm, yes, conceivably.

Raising a bug...

Andrew

-- System Information:
Distributor ID: Devuan
Description:  Devuan GNU/Linux 6 (excalibur/ceres)
Release:  6
Codename: excalibur ceres
Architecture: x86_64

Kernel: Linux 6.12.37+deb13-amd64 (SMP w/4 CPU threads; PREEMPT)
Locale: LANG=en_GB.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_GB.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8), LANGUAGE=en_GB:en
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /usr/bin/dash
Init: runit (via /run/runit.stopit)
LSM: AppArmor: enabled
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From: dak@devuan.org
To: 904-done@bugs.devuan.org
Subject: #904: fixed in src:coreutils version 9.7-3devuan1
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2025 17:19:50 +0000
Version: 9.7-3devuan1

Source package coreutils (9.7-3devuan1) added to Devuan suite experimental.

This closes bug report 904.

Thanks

DAK managing the Devuan archive

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Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2025 17:14:27 +0100
Source: coreutils
Architecture: source
Version: 9.7-3devuan1
Distribution: experimental
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Devuan Developers <devuan-dev@lists.dyne.org>
Changed-By: Mark Hindley <mark@hindley.org.uk>
Closes: 904
Changes:
 coreutils (9.7-3devuan1) experimental; urgency=medium
 .
   * Fork for Devuan.
   * Build without experimental upstream systemd support. (Closes: #904)
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