Devuan bug report logs - #606
Networking Is Blocked By Default On A Fresh Installation

Package: rfkill; Severity: critical; Reported by: jakolineplayer@tutanota.com; dated Sun, 29 Aug 2021 06:52:01 UTC; Maintainer for rfkill is Devuan Developers <devuan-dev@lists.dyne.org>.

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From: Arne Wichmann <aw@saar.de>
To: jakolineplayer@tutanota.com
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Subject: Re: Networking Is Blocked By Default On A Fresh Installation
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begin  quotation  from jakolineplayer@tutanota.com (in <MiCyBCe--3-2@tutano=
ta.com>):
> Package: rfkill
> Version: 2.33.1
> Severity: critical
>=20
> Problem:
> Devuan 3.1 beowulf installer uses rfkill to BLOCK wifi networking by defa=
ult on a fresh minimal installation first time boot, by minimal I mean that=
 only 'standard system utilities' and 'print server' is chosen in tasksel, =
this happens in the absence of package rfkill itself which is needed to UNB=
LOCK networking. No internet plus no way to enable internet makes the syste=
m of no use or non-beneficial for most users.

Though I can not reproduce this bug as I do not have a machine which has
wifi usable for installation, maybe you can help and retry with chimaera if
the problem is still present.

Moreover I doubt that the problem is in rfkill - I would look for it in the
installation routines. If you are not sure I will redirect the problem to
devuan-installer.

cu

AW
--=20
[...] If you don't want to be restricted, don't agree to it. If you are
coerced, comply as much as you must to protect yourself, just don't support
it. Noone can free you but yourself. (crag, on Debian Planet)
Arne Wichmann (aw@saar.de)

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Acknowledgement sent to Arne Wichmann <aw@saar.de>:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to Devuan Developers <devuan-dev@lists.dyne.org>. Full text available.
Information forwarded to devuan-bugs@lists.dyne.org, Devuan Developers <devuan-dev@lists.dyne.org>:
bug#606; Package rfkill. Full text available.

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Package: rfkill
Version: 2.33.1
Severity: critical

Problem:
Devuan 3.1 beowulf installer uses rfkill to BLOCK wifi networking by defaul=
t on a fresh minimal installation first time boot, by minimal I mean that o=
nly 'standard system utilities' and 'print server' is chosen in tasksel, th=
is happens in the absence of package rfkill itself which is needed to UNBLO=
CK networking. No internet plus no way to enable internet makes the system =
of no use or non-beneficial for most users.

Steps to reproduce:
1- Download and burn devuan_beowulf_3.1.1_amd64_netinstall.iso
2- boot you cd/usb and start the installer with firmware enabled
3- When asked about networking use wifi and proceed
4- When tasksel dialogue appears untick every thing and only leave 'standar=
d system utilities' and 'print server' checked, we want a minimal installat=
ion without any desktops
5- After installation is finished remove the cd/usb and boot into your newl=
y installed system
6- Login as root
7- Try to put your wifi interface up. You'll receive error 'SIOCSIFFLAGS: O=
peration not possible due to RF-kill'
8- Try using rfkill to unlock networking via command 'rfkill unblock wifi; =
rfkill unblock all'. Bash will tell you 'rfkill: command not found'

Expected behavior:=20
1- Networking should not be blocked by default, not by using rfkill nor any=
 other method

2- The wireless interface should be brought up by default on first boot bec=
ause it was used during the installation, and my chosen wifi hotspot should=
 also be running by default, most distros do that, they preserve the wifi c=
onfiguration that was used during the installation (SSID & password), I thi=
nk Debian too does it. Please investigate if it can be done in Devuan as we=
ll, for user=C2=A0convenience.=20

Note:
Strangely enough, as seen in steps to reproduce (step number 8), the tool t=
hat was used to soft-kill networking (rfkill) is actually absent from the s=
ystem, meaning that it was only present during the installation and was use=
d by the installer before shutdown and after all the work was done.

Note #2:
When using an Ethernet cable instead of wifi during installation this probl=
em DID NOT occur.

Please see what you can do about this severe issue, maybe it's inherited fr=
om Debian, I don't know as I've never used wifi during a Debian netinstall =
before, I've always used the official iso which does not include non-free f=
irmware hence no wifi during installation at all, only Ethernet.


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<div><div d__=3D"">Package: rfkill<br></div><div d__=3D""><div>Version: 2.3=
3.1<br></div><div>Severity: critical<br></div><div><br></div></div><div d__=
=3D"">Problem:<br></div><div d__=3D"">Devuan 3.1 beowulf installer uses rfk=
ill to BLOCK wifi networking by default on a fresh minimal installation fir=
st time boot, by minimal I mean that only 'standard system utilities' and '=
print server' is chosen in tasksel, this happens in the absence of package =
rfkill itself which is needed to UNBLOCK networking. No internet plus no wa=
y to enable internet makes the system of no use or non-<span>beneficial</sp=
an> for most users.<br></div><div><br></div><div d__=3D"">Steps to reproduc=
e:<br></div><div><div d__=3D"">1- Download and burn devuan_beowulf_3.1.1_am=
d64_netinstall.iso<br></div><div d__=3D"">2- boot you cd/usb and start the =
installer with firmware enabled<br></div><div d__=3D"">3- When asked about =
networking use wifi and proceed<br></div><div><div d__=3D"">4- When tasksel=
 dialogue appears untick every thing and only leave 'standard system utilit=
ies' and 'print server' checked, we want a minimal installation without any=
 desktops<br></div><div d__=3D"">5- After installation is finished remove t=
he cd/usb and boot into your newly installed system<br>6- Login as root<br>=
</div><div d__=3D"">7- Try to put your wifi interface up. You'll receive er=
ror 'SIOCSIFFLAGS: Operation not possible due to RF-kill'<br></div><div><di=
v d__=3D""><div>8- Try using rfkill to unlock networking via command 'rfkil=
l unblock wifi; rfkill unblock all'. Bash will tell you 'rfkill: command no=
t found'<br></div><div><br></div><div>Expected behavior: <br></div><div>1- =
Networking should not be blocked by default, not by using rfkill nor any ot=
her method<br></div><div><br></div><div>2- The wireless interface should be=
 brought up by default on first boot because it was used during the install=
ation, and my chosen wifi hotspot should also be running by default, most d=
istros do that, they preserve the wifi configuration that was used during t=
he installation (SSID &amp; password), I think Debian too does it. Please i=
nvestigate if it can be done in Devuan as well, for user&nbsp;convenience. =
<br></div></div><div><br></div><div d__=3D"">Note:<br></div><div d__=3D"">S=
trangely enough, as seen in steps to reproduce (step number 8), the tool th=
at was used to soft-kill networking (rfkill) is actually absent from the sy=
stem, meaning that it was only present during the installation and was used=
 by the installer before shutdown and after all the work was done.<br><br>N=
ote #2:<br>When using an Ethernet cable instead of wifi during installation=
 this problem DID NOT occur.<br><br>Please see what you can do about this s=
evere issue, maybe it's inherited from Debian, I don't know as I've never u=
sed wifi during a Debian netinstall before, I've always used the official i=
so which does not include non-free firmware hence no wifi during installati=
on at all, only Ethernet.<br></div></div></div></div></div><div dir=3D"auto=
"><br></div>  </body>
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Acknowledgement sent to jakolineplayer@tutanota.com:
New bug report received and forwarded. Copy sent to Devuan Developers <devuan-dev@lists.dyne.org>. Full text available.
Report forwarded to devuan-bugs@lists.dyne.org, Devuan Developers <devuan-dev@lists.dyne.org>:
bug#606; Package rfkill. Full text available.

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