Devuan bug report logs - #685
Unneeded dependency for systemd-standalone-tmpfiles

Package: lvm2; Maintainer for lvm2 is (unknown); Source for lvm2 is src:lvm2.

Reported by: Klaus Ethgen <Klaus@ethgen.de>

Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2022 07:20:02 UTC

Severity: normal

Tags: debian

Found in version 2.03.15-1

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From: Klaus Ethgen <Klaus@ethgen.de>
To: Devuan Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.devuan.org>
Subject: Unneeded dependency for systemd-standalone-tmpfiles
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2022 08:17:20 +0100
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Package: lvm2
Version: 2.03.15-1
Severity: normal

The new lvm2 package depends on systemd-standalone-tmpfiles which is
not mentioned in changelog and not used anywhere.

Please remove this poisoned dependency. I don't want any systemd
dependency on my system.

This is a violation of the debian package policy!

-- System Information:
Distributor ID:	Devuan
Description:	Devuan GNU/Linux 5 (daedalus/ceres)
Release:	5
Codename:	daedalus ceres
Architecture: x86_64

Kernel: Linux 5.16.17 (SMP w/8 CPU threads)
Kernel taint flags: TAINT_PROPRIETARY_MODULE, TAINT_FIRMWARE_WORKAROUND, TAINT_OOT_MODULE
Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8), LANGUAGE not set
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash
Init: sysvinit (via /sbin/init)

Versions of packages lvm2 depends on:
ii  dmeventd                                        2:1.02.183-1
ii  dmsetup                                         2:1.02.183-1
ii  init-system-helpers                             1.63devuan1
ii  libaio1                                         0.3.113-2
ii  libblkid1                                       2.38-4devuan1
ii  libc6                                           2.33-7
ii  libdevmapper-event1.02.1                        2:1.02.183-1
ii  libedit2                                        3.1-20210910-1
ii  libelogind-compat [libsystemd0]                 246.10-5
ii  libeudev1 [libudev1]                            3.2.11-1
ii  libselinux1                                     3.4-1
ii  lsb-base                                        11.2
ii  systemd-standalone-tmpfiles [systemd-tmpfiles]  251.2-7

Versions of packages lvm2 recommends:
pn  thin-provisioning-tools  <none>

lvm2 suggests no packages.

-- Configuration Files:
/etc/lvm/lvm.conf changed [not included]

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From: Mark Hindley <mark@hindley.org.uk>
To: Klaus Ethgen <Klaus@ethgen.de>, 685@bugs.devuan.org
Subject: Re: bug#685: Unneeded dependency for systemd-standalone-tmpfiles
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2022 09:23:52 +0100
Control: tags -1 debian

Klaus,

Thanks for this.

On Mon, Jul 04, 2022 at 08:17:20AM +0100, Klaus Ethgen wrote:
> Package: lvm2
> Version: 2.03.15-1
> Severity: normal

However, lvm2 is not forked in Devuan and we used Debian's packages directly
without recompilation. Please report this to Debian's BTS.

Thanks

Mark

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From: Klaus Ethgen <Klaus@ethgen.de>
To: Mark Hindley <mark@hindley.org.uk>
Cc: 685@bugs.devuan.org
Subject: Re: bug#685: Unneeded dependency for systemd-standalone-tmpfiles
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2022 15:07:07 +0100
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Hi,

Am Mo den  4. Jul 2022 um  9:23 schrieb Mark Hindley:
> On Mon, Jul 04, 2022 at 08:17:20AM +0100, Klaus Ethgen wrote:
> > Package: lvm2
> > Version: 2.03.15-1
> > Severity: normal
> 
> However, lvm2 is not forked in Devuan and we used Debian's packages directly
> without recompilation. Please report this to Debian's BTS.

Sorry, no.

I had too many fights especially with this Michael Biebl who is one main
driver of putting systemd dependencies in many, many unrelated tools. He
does use his power to close real bugs with wontfix just as he can.

The bug above is a candidate for this I... to jump in and close it in
this way.

I don't engage in such fights anymore. That was one main reason, I
changed to devuan.

Regards
   Klaus
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Message #20 received at 685@bugs.devuan.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: tito <farmatito@tiscali.it>
To: devuan-dev@lists.dyne.org
Cc: Klaus Ethgen <Klaus@ethgen.de>, 685@bugs.devuan.org
Subject: Re: [devuan-dev] bug#685: Unneeded dependency for systemd-standalone-tmpfiles
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2022 16:19:53 +0200
On Mon, 4 Jul 2022 15:07:07 +0100
Klaus Ethgen <Klaus@ethgen.de> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Am Mo den  4. Jul 2022 um  9:23 schrieb Mark Hindley:
> > On Mon, Jul 04, 2022 at 08:17:20AM +0100, Klaus Ethgen wrote:
> > > Package: lvm2
> > > Version: 2.03.15-1
> > > Severity: normal
> > 
> > However, lvm2 is not forked in Devuan and we used Debian's packages directly
> > without recompilation. Please report this to Debian's BTS.
> 
> Sorry, no.
> 
> I had too many fights especially with this Michael Biebl who is one main
> driver of putting systemd dependencies in many, many unrelated tools. He
> does use his power to close real bugs with wontfix just as he can.
> 
> The bug above is a candidate for this I... to jump in and close it in
> this way.
> 
> I don't engage in such fights anymore. That was one main reason, I
> changed to devuan.
> 
> Regards
>    Klaus

Hi,
this package is available in devuan:

apt list *tmpfiles* -a
Listing... Done
systemd-standalone-tmpfiles/unstable 251.2-7 amd64
systemd-standalone-tmpfiles/stable-backports 250.4-1~bpo11+1 amd64

and seems not directly related with systemd:

Package: systemd-standalone-tmpfiles (251.2-7) 

standalone tmpfiles binary for use in non-systemd systems

Standalone tmpfiles binary with minimal dependencies. This package conflicts with the main systemd package and is meant for use in non-systemd systems. 

Ciao,
Tito

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